Such an important posting! The more you learn about ALPRs the scarier it is. The CT legislature is currently considering a bill to regulate them. It’s not just Dems in the legislature who favor strict regulation on these cameras; some libertarian leaning republicans are also on it.
Windsor, CT was the first town to turn off the cameras and develop a plan to assess all new AI tech used by the town to protect civil liberties. We just FOIAed west Hartford for Flock data, obtained copies of the Flock contracts, locations of fixed cameras and mapped them on deFlock. The town also has Flock cameras on the patrol cars!
I’m really surprised there’s no reference to Benn Jordan in this writeup…he’s the Youtuber / musician / technologist / documentarian who did a lot of the initial research & whistleblowing on Flock Safety, their egregious security flaws, and the (arguably) criminal business tactics of their company…leading several cities to end their relationships with Flock, getting the attention of legislators to open investigations, and forcing the company to address some of its most glaring vulnerabilities.
Benn is one of the biggest reasons Ring Camera ended their partnership with Flock… but his latest vid from approx 5 days ago really tears into Ring cameras and federal law enforcement abuse of the data they collect, too.
I’d HIGHLY encourage folks to watch Benn Jordan’s videos on this subject (all of his content is A+, IMHO.)
When is someone with major popularity going to suggest we contact State Legislators to create an immediate law making collecting citizen's personal data a felony (phones, cameras, medical records, etc.) with huge fines that cannot be pardoned. Selling it can result in company's license being revoked and all investors will not be allowed to create another company involving data being collected and having any AI involvement, or disguising it as a safety measure for the citizens. And since flick has remained recording even after contracts have been cancelled, the cameras should be removed within 24 hours and all previously collected data be destroyed.
In the meantime, why wasn't this addressed a Long time ago and why do other countries already have laws in place protecting private information? Crimes can still be solved the old fashioned way, and taking DNA involuntarily at detention centers also need to be addressed as well as not transferring detainees for 1 mo and allowing due process. Way too many things to address NOW than allowing more legislature to further violate civil rights.
It's not just in communities. I am on the road 3 hours a day in rural and suburban areas. I see them in communities, but I also see them in the unincorporated rural areas. I don't know if this is a the request of the county sheriff's office. I see them on state and US highways. Does this mean that the information goes to the US DOT? I'm in Texas, you know it will be shared with the Feds.
Over flock cameras, absolutely. AI logging every person and car that passes the camera and storing and selling that information without your consent is not the solution.
brother it is well documented ice and the government are using flock databases to track people. there are videos of people accessing camera feeds and recording how the cameras track you. private property that puts them up are accessing the same data as the police without going through them. you are an adult that can google things by yourself.
Abuses of Americans is rampant and always for profit, secretly and under the radar! Only Iraneans, Russians, North Koreans and other authoritarian regimes have surveillance to this abusive level. Except in the US, it's for profit! Amplify this article, enough of abuse.
There's a map somewhere on the internet where you can see where all those cameras are. I looked at it for my area, we have them too and they can be hard to avoid.
Such an important posting! The more you learn about ALPRs the scarier it is. The CT legislature is currently considering a bill to regulate them. It’s not just Dems in the legislature who favor strict regulation on these cameras; some libertarian leaning republicans are also on it.
Windsor, CT was the first town to turn off the cameras and develop a plan to assess all new AI tech used by the town to protect civil liberties. We just FOIAed west Hartford for Flock data, obtained copies of the Flock contracts, locations of fixed cameras and mapped them on deFlock. The town also has Flock cameras on the patrol cars!
I’m really surprised there’s no reference to Benn Jordan in this writeup…he’s the Youtuber / musician / technologist / documentarian who did a lot of the initial research & whistleblowing on Flock Safety, their egregious security flaws, and the (arguably) criminal business tactics of their company…leading several cities to end their relationships with Flock, getting the attention of legislators to open investigations, and forcing the company to address some of its most glaring vulnerabilities.
Benn is one of the biggest reasons Ring Camera ended their partnership with Flock… but his latest vid from approx 5 days ago really tears into Ring cameras and federal law enforcement abuse of the data they collect, too.
I’d HIGHLY encourage folks to watch Benn Jordan’s videos on this subject (all of his content is A+, IMHO.)
Breaking The Creepy AI in Police Cameras:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9MwZkHiMQ&pp=0gcJCdkKAYcqIYzv&ra=m
We Hacked Flock Safety Cameras in under 30 Seconds. 🫥:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY&ra=m
It's Time to Take Down your Smart Cameras 😬:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UMIwNiwQewQ&ra=m
Thank you!
You don't have to give them ANYTHING. They can ask, but that's it.
When is someone with major popularity going to suggest we contact State Legislators to create an immediate law making collecting citizen's personal data a felony (phones, cameras, medical records, etc.) with huge fines that cannot be pardoned. Selling it can result in company's license being revoked and all investors will not be allowed to create another company involving data being collected and having any AI involvement, or disguising it as a safety measure for the citizens. And since flick has remained recording even after contracts have been cancelled, the cameras should be removed within 24 hours and all previously collected data be destroyed.
In the meantime, why wasn't this addressed a Long time ago and why do other countries already have laws in place protecting private information? Crimes can still be solved the old fashioned way, and taking DNA involuntarily at detention centers also need to be addressed as well as not transferring detainees for 1 mo and allowing due process. Way too many things to address NOW than allowing more legislature to further violate civil rights.
They need to realize they are also being tracked.
It's not just in communities. I am on the road 3 hours a day in rural and suburban areas. I see them in communities, but I also see them in the unincorporated rural areas. I don't know if this is a the request of the county sheriff's office. I see them on state and US highways. Does this mean that the information goes to the US DOT? I'm in Texas, you know it will be shared with the Feds.
Why dont you look at how that information is actually used?
Like our state voter information is used? It has already been sent to the feds.
You're comparing aardvarks and kumquats.
Personally I am a fan of flock cameras. You would prefer high speed chases?
Over flock cameras, absolutely. AI logging every person and car that passes the camera and storing and selling that information without your consent is not the solution.
Not the solution to what Jay? It definitely has helped solve crime.
Show us the evidence of your assettion
My local pd uses flick cameras. We are not selling the information
Flock is selling that information. Both to your local pd and elsewhere. That is how their business works. Police and security buy in to the service.
Please show us the evidence of this being sold to other than police.
brother it is well documented ice and the government are using flock databases to track people. there are videos of people accessing camera feeds and recording how the cameras track you. private property that puts them up are accessing the same data as the police without going through them. you are an adult that can google things by yourself.
Absolutely not but flock cameras are not the answer.
What exactly is the answer ?
Thanks for good counsel here. As you've referenced DeFlock's site (helpful locator / maps), here it is again:
https://deflock.org
Abuses of Americans is rampant and always for profit, secretly and under the radar! Only Iraneans, Russians, North Koreans and other authoritarian regimes have surveillance to this abusive level. Except in the US, it's for profit! Amplify this article, enough of abuse.
Look at least locally flick cameras solve problems and we don't need pursuit. What is your solution?
There's a map somewhere on the internet where you can see where all those cameras are. I looked at it for my area, we have them too and they can be hard to avoid.
No the info is not public access
C'mon Jim. I saw it myself...
You're being a contrarian.
No I am simply challenging your unsubstantiated claim
You are claiming you can and have accessed the flock camera system? Are you a cop Erika?
When did I ever say I have access to them?
No. There's a site you can go to that will show you WHERE THEY ARE. That's it.
URL?
Only if you have a case number and the password.
Show your work or go away.
Go away? We're on the internet, Jim.