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jumble's avatar

If the millions of people protesting around America and the world can't get the message across to the Republican Congress, then I don't know what can. The Republicans aren't listening and/or they are too afraid to care. Why they are holding out is beyond our beliefs. It's Beyond ridiculous

ani rose's avatar

This may have been covered before but if the 25th amendment is invokeď, doesn’t that give us VP Vance as President? How is he any better? Isn’t he a product of the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025? He may not be the foul demented man the president is but he is still a danger to our democracy.

Patricia Davis's avatar

Although I believe there are solid grounds for the 25th Amendment, I do not believe it is the best or the most permanent path forward. Something MUST be done by Congress. They MUST act.

The first thing they must do is end the war. They have that power and they must do it. Along with that action, they must impeach, convict, and remove this president from office. Both of those things can be done quickly. Finally, they must investigate everything and DOJ must prosecute all crimes committed by anyone, but especially the President and his cabinet.

Only by doing these things will government balance be restored. And only by doing these things will we start to rebuild trust with the world. Send a strong message that lawlessness will not stand.

igor isa🤘⚧️'s avatar

💯 agreed. 25th’s a terrible idea! Cuz 1) Shady Couch worse, 2) drümpf gets 3 weeks in power before removal to foment civil war. Please read @MilesTaylor's article linked below for deets on why 25th was avoided inside drümpf #1. I also worry if he's deemed insane & incompetent: he'll have an escape hatch from accountability. Impeachment’s better, Art 2 Sec 4, but 1st: We The People must ALL work on #FreeAndFairElections that are #TooBigToRig! once dems take house & senate: 1st impeach couch, then malignant 🍊, then dems get full control 🤞💙🌊🇺🇸🙏🏻‼️

🧚🏽‍♂️LINK FAIRY sez for your convenience, Miles’ article, highly recommended: https://substack.com/@milestaylor/note/c-239178105?r=60kbqc&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

Joanne's avatar

The Republicans are in lockstep with Trump, echo his distorted attitudes against the constitution and our freedoms, chase the money men for support, are concerned with their own selfish desires, embrace corruption as their standard of conduct and in general, are as amoral as Trump. Expecting them to remove Trump as president is a pipe dream. The oligarchs have waited in the wings for enough years to gain control of our government that they won't let go now that they are in power. We are up against an entractable enemy, one equipped with unlimited funds and a determined support system intent on shredding our freedoms and humanity. Ironic we are in this decline as we celebrate our two hundred and fifty years anniversary. Empires rise and fall. History awaits ours.

Kathy Mazur's avatar

I agree, and will add…this is a multi-national effort to crush our country - Putin etc.

Have YOU and are YOU doing anything about this? Because, everyone needs to be involved in Saving Democracy!

Joanne's avatar

Kathy,

As my observations extend back to the years of Ronald Reagan and his efforts to remove the safety net for Americans in favor of the money men seeking government influence, I view the present attempt to corrupt the government as an insidious inner attack against our freedoms. No question Trump admires other authoritarian countries and fancies himself as a potential ruler of the world. His problem is he does not have the intelligence to be such a ruler. For myself, the sun is setting on how long I can put up opposition to our present dangers. At 88 years of age I am still able to protest with others in Hands Off, No Kings demonstrations, and encourage the importance to vote for progressive representatives to replace the corrupt Republicans. The battle is for the future not only of America but the very planet we call home.

Joanne

📎 McTwingles's avatar

All of that will take too long. We need a general strike now! And make it clear that we won’t end it until he’s out of power.

Pat M's avatar

The Democrats need to pull together as a strong unity and to speak louder and more in public! Democrats should be mad as hell. I also feel that Jeffries is a weak leader!

Annominos's avatar

I wouldn't call the VP. Your name will probably go on a list.

Meg alfoni's avatar

Hollering for the 25th amendment may be a case of "beware what you wish for". What stands behind Trump in the hierarchy of government is almost worse than what he is. Better we place.our energies into the midterms.where we can gain conrtrol of the House and Senate and then use that power to impeach and hobble the the whole crew. Then in 2028 vote the entire rats' nest out! In the meantime, let the courts do their job, and we can continue to watch support for Trump and his administration crumble.

Patti Fraticelli's avatar

Article 2, Section 4. Throw them all out.

Leslie Seitz's avatar

Him and all of his sycophants needs to be arrested for war crimes.

Laura Gottlieb's avatar

You say that the 25th Amendment has NEVER been used successfully to remove a president.I just want to say, respectfully, that we’ve only HAD that amendment to the Constitution since 1967.

ItsyBitsySpiderLiz's avatar

I'm not sure the 25th amendment to remove Trump will work. I don't see us getting 2/3 of the votes we would need to remove him. Then Vance is not much better, although he does not have dementia, he played a large part in the works of their agenda of Project 2025. JD was actually suggested by Trump's son to be VP because of his beliefs. He has been very quiet lately & I think this is because he is just waiting to step into Trump's shoes. We need to remember that due to Trump's dementia he is being fed information constantly by others in his administration, so removing him is just like pulling a bandaid off of a larger wound that needs stitches. (The problems will still be there).

Article II Section 4 is a great thought but also not realistic because you can only impeach & try one person at a time for crimes committed. Yes, the whole administration is guilty, either by committing the crimes or helping to hide the crimes, but the process would take forever & leave Mike Johnson as acting President during part of the process (a horrible thought).

Our only realistic way out is to vote blue all the way & gain the majority. Please remember if Vance takes over, he would have the option of running again for President & if MAGA & the so called Christian's he is trying to gain backing from...it could put him in office for 3 years total (1 for taking Trump's place & 2 for his own running). We need to keep all this in mind.

Vote blue. Gain majority, Get a Democratic President & start changing old laws to prevent this madness from happening again. Be sure to time limit the Supreme Court as well, no more lifetime positions in those changes.

Michael Corthell's avatar

''The Morning Work of Democracy: Democracy survives when ordinary people choose responsibility over despair''

Democracy is rarely saved by famous people in polished rooms. It survives because ordinary people keep getting up, showing up, and refusing despair. This essay is about the quiet courage of citizenship, and why the daily work of ordinary Americans may determine whether the republic endures. https://essayx.substack.com/p/the-morning-work-of-democracy